JD Vance, joined Joe Rogan for a three-hour discussion covering a range of social and political issues, including abortion, gender identity, and social media's impact on public discourse. But a deceptively edited clip from the episode circulated online, misleadingly framing Rogan as challenging Vance’s views on abortion in a harsher light. Rogan later called out the editing on social media, labelling it as "gross."
The misleading clip in question begins with Rogan addressing the complexities of abortion access, pointing out the perception of men dictating women's choices, particularly in states with restrictive laws. Vance responds by acknowledging this perception but argues that societal discussions around abortion often go too far, particularly when people "celebrate" the act. The clip then abruptly cuts just as Rogan begins to push back, noting that those "celebrating" are a small fringe and "extreme weirdos" on platforms like TikTok. This part of the conversation, as well as Vance’s agreement, was excluded from the widely shared clip, giving the impression of a one-sided confrontation.
The full exchange reveals that both Rogan and Vance agreed on the nuance of the issue. Vance acknowledged the potential harm of online echo chambers and argued that social media algorithms disproportionately amplify extreme views. Rogan added that this intensifies outrage by showing users only the most sensational content, driving polarisation.
Vance used this opportunity to delve into his cultural and political stances, lamenting what he called "gender transition craziness" and alleging that upper-middle-class families encourage children to identify as transgender to increase their chances of Ivy League admission—a claim that drew criticism online.
As the conversation progressed, Vance and Rogan discussed other contentious topics, including alleged Big Tech censorship and misinformation around COVID-19, touching on topics that have historically attracted Rogan's large, young, predominantly male audience. Vance’s comments, particularly around abortion and LGBTQ+ issues, have already become talking points in his 2024 election campaign.
The misleading clip in question begins with Rogan addressing the complexities of abortion access, pointing out the perception of men dictating women's choices, particularly in states with restrictive laws. Vance responds by acknowledging this perception but argues that societal discussions around abortion often go too far, particularly when people "celebrate" the act. The clip then abruptly cuts just as Rogan begins to push back, noting that those "celebrating" are a small fringe and "extreme weirdos" on platforms like TikTok. This part of the conversation, as well as Vance’s agreement, was excluded from the widely shared clip, giving the impression of a one-sided confrontation.
The Left “editing” a clip. Gross. https://t.co/OYypW3C1Vc
— Joe Rogan Podcast (@joeroganhq) November 1, 2024
The full exchange reveals that both Rogan and Vance agreed on the nuance of the issue. Vance acknowledged the potential harm of online echo chambers and argued that social media algorithms disproportionately amplify extreme views. Rogan added that this intensifies outrage by showing users only the most sensational content, driving polarisation.
Vance used this opportunity to delve into his cultural and political stances, lamenting what he called "gender transition craziness" and alleging that upper-middle-class families encourage children to identify as transgender to increase their chances of Ivy League admission—a claim that drew criticism online.
As the conversation progressed, Vance and Rogan discussed other contentious topics, including alleged Big Tech censorship and misinformation around COVID-19, touching on topics that have historically attracted Rogan's large, young, predominantly male audience. Vance’s comments, particularly around abortion and LGBTQ+ issues, have already become talking points in his 2024 election campaign.
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